266: Raising CEOs: Modeling Entrepreneurship for Your Kids

Jennifer: 0:00

I think it's good to prepare them for that. You know, like to just know and to know that it's okay and that it's not a failure because something isn't working out, you know, or because something isn't going according to plan, or even you know if something, if a plan fails, it doesn't mean you're a failure.

Camille: 0:24

So you want to make an impact. You're thinking about starting a business, sharing your voice. How do women do it that handle motherhood, family and still chase after those dreams? We'll listen each week as we dive into the stories of women who know this is Call Me CEO.

Camille: 0:43

Hey everyone, I am so thrilled to have the honor to introduce you to this section, this segment of mom and mine summit summit, and you're in for a big treat, because jennifer is one of my best best friends in the entire world. She is someone I respect so much, and when I thought about the topics that would really help in this summit of what do moms need to hear, especially moms who are running a business, maybe you're working inside the home, outside the home, no matter who you are, moms are always working hard, and Jennifer is no exception to that. She runs a very successful creator business in many different ways. I'll let her explain that to you, but she also is a mother of three and she homeschools, which already I'm like. I bow to you. That is a huge feat and she does it with so much grace and fun and she's amazing. So, jennifer, please introduce yourself and fill in the gaps that I missed.

Jennifer: 1:36

Oh, you're so sweet. Thank you, Camille. You know, honestly, I I think you did a great job. Yeah, I'm a mom of three. I feel like that's as cliche as it sounds like the most important thing I do. It's really fun. I'm a content creator.

Jennifer: 1:49

I used to work as a journalist. That's what I went to college for. I went to BYU studied broadcast journalism and my dream was to be a journalist and I finished school and got a job in Austin, Texas, and got to be a news anchor and reporter for several years and I loved it so much. Um, then I had a couple of kids and things like schedules got crazy, working weekends all the time. Um, I had also, like concurrently, while I was working as a reporter, started a blog and it was kind of like my fun creative outlet to write and not have to worry about like okay, I can't insert my opinion here, Cause as a journalist, we had to be like non-partial and everything. So, um, it was like my creative outlet. I started it very anonymously in the beginning. Um, it was just kind of funny and I shared it between friends, but then it just kept growing throughout the years. Then Instagram came along and it kind of already had a following, and now I've somehow still working as a content creator.

Jennifer: 2:50

And I feel like I'm just lucky enough to still be in this because I love storytelling and um sharing our family story and stuff online.

Jennifer: 2:59

So I mostly do that on Instagram, but I'm also on like TikTok and the other things too. Our family loves movies and that's a big part of my content. I feel like I share a lot of like family movie reviews and things like that and a couple. I guess three years ago now we launched the Family Movie Night Journal, so that's been a fun project that we've worked on too. We have um a journal that our family uses every week to like write down the movie we watch for family movie night. Like tonight it's my daughter's my oldest daughter's turn to pick the movie and we're like writing in the journal our reviews and um how we rank them and um special memories and stuff each night, and it's been fun seeing other families bring it into their homes and use it as well and have that tradition together. So that's it in a nutshell. Like it's. I feel like my journey has kind of been all over the place, but um consistent and just like having fun and storytelling in our own way.

Camille: 3:59

Yeah, and you do that so well, where it's very genuine, people connect with you without ever having met you, and that is such a unique capability, especially online, where there's a lot of noise and you want to make sure you have a sense of who someone really is, and you model it so beautifully. So that's why this topic of modeling, entrepreneurship and goal setting is so perfect for you, because you have modeled it so beautifully and she's being very modest here by saying oh, I'm just a content creator, because there's nothing just about Jennifer. She is killing it financially in terms of, like setting major financial goals for herself and her family and even prepping for her family's financial future. In terms of like education and opportunities and helping them to understand the importance of working hard for themselves, which is, I think, one of the best things about it.

Jennifer: 4:52

Thank you.

Camille: 4:53

Thanks so much, yeah, so let's talk about this a little bit. So, modeling, entrepreneurship and goal setting as a parent why is that important to you?

Jennifer: 5:04

You know, I think entrepreneurship I honestly never set out to do that. I just kind of fell into it, you know, like writing on a blog, and then I was like, oh, people want to pay me to do this. And you know, I I never set out to like I'm going to be a business owner and I think even if, um, I, you know, went back and told my younger self like this is you're going to have your own business someday, I'd be like no way, that sounds so boring, but I lucked out that I am doing it in a way that's like really fun and um, but now I mean I definitely have a different perspective, like having my own business and learning about just navigating the world from a different point of view. Like I kind of always thought I'd work for someone else and you know, get my like bi-monthly paycheck and that's great, and like my husband does that and he loves that, like that is his vibe, that he rolls with. But now I'm kind of in a position where I'm like I don't know if I could go back to that and I think it's nice that, um, my kids kind of get to see a little bit of both, because I think our kids will like take, have totally different paths. I mean, they're all so different from each other and have completely different personalities.

Jennifer: 6:17

I could definitely see my oldest um wanting to go some kind of entrepreneurial creative route, because she just is so like similar to me and like kind of all over the place a little bit, but also like she has so many different interests and um, she like is studying cosmetology right now and she also like just loves video editing and different things. So I could definitely see her wanting to have her own business someday. Um, and I just think it's nice to have more options and to like know that truly anything is possible and that like not to put your own limits on yourself, and I think that's something that I didn't really understand growing up. Um, that you know. Um, you don't have to like look a certain way to have your own business. You don't have to like look a certain way to have your own business, or you don't have to go to business school to have your own business. You can like just fall into it.

Camille: 7:12

Literally.

Jennifer: 7:12

I feel like you know is what I did. It can. It can start from anywhere, and I imagine it could be even better if you have some sort of plan. So, um yeah, for me it's really just about my kids understanding that they can do whatever it is that they want to do, and there's a lot of things out there for them.

Camille: 7:36

I feel like modeling the behavior is for kids. I actually was watching an interview with John Deloney, which is a friend and I really appreciate everything that he has to say, and it was talking about teaching your kids how to be a gentleman and to treat women with respect, and his response kind of surprised me. He said you can't teach your boys that you have to model it. It's not something you teach them, and I think that that very much applies to our children seeing women holding different roles and titles, especially as entrepreneurs, because it's not always this perfect planned out, cut and paste. This is what you do and this is how it's done.

Camille: 8:16

However, I like that you aren't a perfectly planned person and yet you've been massively successful. So that's where I'm like okay, I want to pick the weeds of that a little bit. Like what does that look like for you as a creative, where you've been able to set really amazing goals but also be able to like roll with the flow? Like, what is a typical, typical day look like and how would you suggest other people get there?

Jennifer: 8:42

Yeah, you know, I think there's been different seasons of my life where my typical day looks different and it's like what? What kind of like season am I in with my business Like, right now, I feel like it's very much in like a flow state of like. All right, I know I have to keep showing up every day. I know that I need to like, um, you know, there's certain things that are just automatic now, like being on top of my email, being on top of, like responding to people, um, having, like, certain staff that are very important to help, you know, keep things running for me. Um, and just making sure that I'm consistent. But in the beginning it was, you know, consistency, and also like, maybe a little more like, I don't know, like I want to say hustling a little bit, like it was like, ok, what is my strategy here? What are my goals? Like, do I want to grow my account? You know, is that my goal right now, where I'm trying to grow? Now I feel like I'm more in like a nurturing who? I have kind of states? Um, I'm just, you know, trying to like build community and making sure I'm consistently showing up for the people who are there and not getting down on algorithms and things like that.

Jennifer: 9:55

When I was launching the movie night journal, it was very much like, okay, how do I make a journal and how do I? You know, how do I get this thing made? What kind of people do I need to design it? And what you know are the textures in the book and different colors of the ribbon for the bookmark and types of gold for the front page, like every little detail in the process, and that was like a very big undertaking for months, you know, trying to plan it all and make it all come together. Months, you know, trying to plan it all and make it all come together. Um, but I mean, I think my thought and for other people with something like this is is kind of like having your end goal in mind, like you know, um, when for the journal, for instance, it was like okay, I know, I want to have a physical product that people can use in their homes, like, like, we want to use Um, and I know that I want it to. You know how I kind of want it to look and what I want it to bring for people. How do I do that, you know.

Jennifer: 10:56

So I just like dove into researching how to do these things. So I think, like having like an open mind and like being willing to learn something and being like I don't know how to do this, whether you want to go the route of like finding a coach that can help you do these things and help you like who's been there and done that and can help walk you through it, or if you have like a mentor who's done that and they can help share that information with you. Or, like, if you're kind of like me, I'm like a YouTube university, like pull it together kind of person like you know, and just being willing to um, to uh, like kind of take the steps and just taking it bit by bit and, you know, maybe having a goal of when you want it done by like I work, I think, being a journalist and very deadline driven, so I'm like, okay, I want it by. You know, summer went schools out, that's when I want it done. So it was like kind of a fun little deadline project for me.

Jennifer: 11:53

Um, but yeah, I mean nowadays it's like making sure every day I'm um showing up and I usually have to like have a list of like to do's again with my deadlines. Like, okay, I have to get all this done before my kids get off the bus, you know Um. And then I just like I'm checking things off and I'm happy for everything I get done.

Camille: 12:13

Yeah, I love that. I've noticed that you very much will take on a project and put your full effort into those efforts. Of what are those things? What are the achievable tasks along the way to get to that end result. Is that a skill that you learned from? You mentioned journalism, but is that something a skill you've always had, or what helped you to develop that for yourself? Because I feel like self-discipline is a big piece of entrepreneurship, because unless you have a coach kind of telling you what to get done next, you really have to be able to do it yourself. So how did you develop that?

Jennifer: 12:51

You know, maybe it is something I've I've kind of had. I mean, I don't get me wrong, I've definitely had a lot of things I've started that I haven't done. Like my garden, like that was a great project for a while. I had, like I had a dog collar business for a while. That was like oh, yes, like this is good, I like would I was sewing custom dog collars and things that I made a website. And then it was like once I got it all done, I was like, oh, but like the advertising selling part I'm not very good at, and then it just like went away. I actually just got an email today from Google Like, do you still just for doggies? Do you need to log in before we deactivate your account? And I was like, wow, that's a blast from the past.

Camille: 13:33

I haven't used that email in years.

Jennifer: 13:36

I know, but, um, yeah, I mean, I think for me it's like, um, I am so goal driven and I just love like having a goal that I want to do, no matter if it's small or if it's big, or like I'm currently working on like 40 before 40, like 40 things I want to do, and I feel like it's just like the best thing for me right now because I've got like I could just wake up and be like what goal do I want to check off this week or today? You know what can I do? And I, that's just like the dopamine hit that I love, um. So I think, um, I don't know that I would say it's funny that you say like being very driven. I don't see myself as a very driven person. I know you think I'm a very driven person because you are, but I guess it's like um driven. I'm like driven for very odd things, I guess, and I just, you know, it's like the, it's like the little things, um, so you have to find you, so you have to find what excites you.

Jennifer: 14:41

Exactly Like that would be like finding what, like gets you excited and wanting to accomplish. And I think that, like, if you're doing something that doesn't excite you, like you gotta I feel like you gotta like re think about what you're doing. Um, because it is going to be hard if you have to, if you're trying to do something that doesn't naturally get you excited, that's going to be that much harder to wake up every day and trying to be motivated to get that done and you're going to be fighting your whole way towards that battle. So the first step is finding something that you are truly excited about, that like that, I think, will get you towards completing your goals.

Camille: 15:25

Yeah, yeah. So I'm curious with that what have your kids picked up on and mimicked of your seeing you find those passion projects, those things you're excited about, and what have you seen in translation with them doing that for themselves?

Jennifer: 15:40

You know, I think my um, the biggest thing I've seen, uh has been with my oldest. She's 15. And, um, and she's told me, like mom, like I love how you just go for your goals and like you just come up with these things you want to do and you just make it happen. I love that and that was like the best compliment to me, because I was like, oh, I'm glad you see that, because, you know, sometimes I just see like hobbies and things that I've started but maybe like and I got to a certain point and then they weren't fun anymore and then they're like dropped, you know, but but she sees it as like no, you did it, though. You know you did it, you achieved this goal. So she, I've seen her do things like make vision boards. Um, my youngest daughter, who she's seven now, she also got in on making some vision boards with us. Um, yeah, like just having so cute little things that they, um, you know, just thinking about what, what they want to do.

Jennifer: 16:39

With my son, I feel like it's a little bit harder. Um, he's very much like lives in the moment, which I think is great, and he does think in the future about things that that he really likes like, uh, football games and things like that, but you know that's out of his control of of the outcome of those games, um, but we're working on that. Uh, he's he's the one that we're still homeschooling right now. So we, you know, take it year by year with each kid and he's homeschooling this year. So we're like planning on what are some things you'd like to do this year and what are some goals we want to have? Um, cause I do think that's, you know, really important to um, to have something in mind that you know you want to achieve, especially so that you can look back and be like, hey, remember when we discussed this and you said this was something you wanted to do, look, now we did it.

Camille: 17:25

Yeah, I think that is a benefit of homeschooling, where you can tailor the content and the education touch points so much more uniquely towards each of the kids. And you are so good at doing that, really paying attention to what your kids excel out, what their interests are, paying attention to what your kids excel out, what their interests are and as far as the creative process of building your own business or helping with the product that you're selling, how have they been involved in the different pieces of that? How has that worked for you and your family?

Jennifer: 17:58

Well, with our movie night journal, my oldest again. Like I feel like she has such a talent for knowing what looks good together. Like she's got this eye for. Like no, you should move that here, you know, hang it this way. Or like no, tuck your shirt like this, you know.

Jennifer: 18:14

Like she's just got this great eye that I do not have at all, and so she actually helped do a lot of the layout for the journal. She um also designed like the colors for the sticker sheets and what uh stickers we wanted to do, um, cause there's like a fun sheet in every journal. Um, and help design like the, the blanket that we have. Um, and then the other two have helped with like packing, like packing orders, getting them out. That's the real stuff right there.

Camille: 18:46

Exactly.

Jennifer: 18:46

Right around Christmas we were all like piled in the room together, have a little conveyor belt line of like okay, this order, you add this, you take this, you, you know, you're sending, you're adding the stickers, you're adding the flyers, you're, you know, closing it up. So that was a lot of fun.

Camille: 19:03

That's really cool. You're adding the flyers, you're, you know, closing it up, so that was a lot of fun. That's really cool. And do you feel like there are? Do they ever ask you questions directly about owning your own business? Or do you feel like, at this point, it's just something that's so ingrained in what they've always known that maybe those are lessons that they're just absorbing?

Jennifer: 19:18

You know, I think um, it's mostly absorbing Um.

Jennifer: 19:23

My oldest does ask me a little more questions, I think now, as she's getting closer to, like college and things like that, she's um thinking more about how she might see her life in the future, um, but yeah, I don't think um, I think a lot of it is just modeling and making sure they know, like my, I think, because I'm like physically not going out somewhere for work. Sometimes it can be a little confusing of like, okay, mom, okay, she's going to work, but she's just going in that room and she's, you know, doing this. So you know, um, a little bit of like, okay, yeah, this is my worker. This video that we're doing right now, this is for my work, and I actually do pay them, um, they get a salary, but they also get like cash, um, at the time of our shoots, and I think that helps a lot too of like realizing, like putting what we're doing with what my work is, and, um, I think that makes it a lot of fun for them to make someone to be like, yeah, exactly, well that.

Camille: 20:25

I think that that's such a neat opportunity because, just like, my husband grew up with his dad owning a car lot and they were there scrubbing the cars, doing detailing work, moving the cars in well, not moving the cars around for a while, cause that was not until they were older but I do think that there is so much value in seeing how owning a business is very much a lifestyle, where you do have to create boundaries of.

Camille: 20:52

This is work time, this is family time, and I think that that can be challenging. But to actually have that like, oh, this is actually how she's making a living, that is so cool that they get to be a part of that. What boundaries have you put in place? Because and I want you to think about your different stages, because the season we're in, or you're in, is a little bit different than it was, say, six years ago having a baby are some boundaries that you've put in place over the years to help keep your sanity and keep those boundaries, so that they're kept, you know, as much as you can because there's not a perfect balance but as much as you can put those parameters in place. What's worked for you there?

Jennifer: 21:36

Um. A big thing for me has been like my phone usage around um, because when you work in social media, you can be on your phone all the time all day um yeah, at night.

Jennifer: 21:48

Yes, exactly. So a big thing for me is um not like if I'm on my phone in front of the kids doing my work, um, it's usually only editing, I don't respond. I try not to respond to comments or DMS or things like that when they're around, because I think it gets to be looking like I'm just, you know, looking on my phone or I mean sometimes I'm typing, but like if I'm editing, like it's very obvious, like I'm working and editing something, um, if I'm like responding to something, I tried to do that on my computer. Um, so there's uh modeling behavior there, because I think it can get a little, you know, confusing Um, and I think also I've gotten a lot better at having um boundaries when it comes to, like what time I'm working, at least what time I'm working for other people, like responding to emails or deadlines or things like that.

Jennifer: 22:44

You know I used to be like, okay, sure, I'll, you know I'll work on this over the weekend, but now I'm like, no, I'm not filming over the weekend, you're going to have to give me an extra day. I may still film on the weekend, but like they have to give me an extra day, you know, and not expect me to work on the weekend. Um, same with like after hours, you know emails, and same with like after hours, you know emails, like if I really feel like responding, or it's not a big deal, I will. If not, I'm like okay, I'm waiting until Monday, because if you don't have that line, you can be working around the clock. And I think for a while there was a period where I was, I felt like I had to, but I don't really feel like that anymore.

Camille: 23:21

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Jennifer: 24:50

Yeah, I think, man, that's um a good one. I think it's important for kids to see you Um not everything always work out like to see you fail sometimes, because, um, it's then that way it's less scary for them, because there will be times when they fail. We all fail, um. Then that way it's less scary for them, because there will be times when they fail, we all fail, um. But if we try to hide that, then I think it makes it feel even worse when they're going through that, because they think you know, well, my parents have never failed, they're perfect, they do everything right, you know um. And letting them know like I think a big lesson that it took me a while to learn was like I can change my mind and it's okay.

Jennifer: 25:27

Big lesson that it took me a while to learn was like I can change my mind and it's okay.

Jennifer: 25:29

Like I can decide I don't want to garden anymore and it's not my thing, and I invested all this money and like did all this stuff to try to do this, but I don't want to do it anymore and that's okay, you know, it's okay to let my dog collar business go. Like it's okay to change your mind and to be like, you know, I worked on this and it was great for a while, but it doesn't excite me anymore. It's not something I want to do and um, and to let it go. Or to say like, okay, I thought I was going to make it really big with this business and and you know, it's not working out. Or I'm losing money right now, like I think it's good to um, prepare, to prepare them for that, you know, like to just know, and to know that it's okay and that it's not. Uh, you're not a failure because something isn't working out, you know, or because something isn't going according to plan. Or even, you know, if something, if a plan fails, it doesn't mean you're a failure.

Camille: 26:21

Yeah, no, that's huge. And I think as grownups or as women, we think, oh, I've got to figure this out and this is what I chose and I've got to stick with it, especially when money and time is involved, because we think, oh, I've already put so much time into this. But for our kids, especially where they're going through, you know, trying new sports or new activities or even new friends, and be like I already invested so much into this, and to show them, to model for them, it's okay to change your mind. It's okay to look at the situation and say this isn't serving me the way it used to, or maybe my interests have changed and that's okay. So I think that that is fantastic that you're doing that for them, because that goes on through your life the older you get, the more you realize like, oh, this doesn't have to be permanent and there's a lot of freedom in that of the, I can change my mind. I love that you brought that up because that's been a big theme in um.

Camille: 27:18

Advice that I give a lot of women that I coach is that a lot of times they'll get stuck in a business idea or something that didn't go well or whatever, and it's saying you know what, if you try it this way and guess what? You could change your mind. If this doesn't work out exactly the way you thought it would, or if you need to take more time to get it done or to develop it or to change, that's okay. And that idea of just releasing that control is monumental. So that's awesome when you do have success and have your wins. I would love to hear about how you celebrate those at home and for yourself and with your family.

Jennifer: 27:56

Man, that's a good question. Um, I think I probably could be a little bit better about, uh, like enjoying my wins. Um, I think sometimes it's you know like yay, I did it, and then like there's the like um crash, almost like now, what you know what's next? Um, so I think that's why it's like fun for me right now to have like 40 things I'm trying to do, because every time I check something off.

Camille: 28:24

I'm like, okay, I know.

Jennifer: 28:31

I know I'm probably going to have to. You know I'll start working on 50, like immediately once I turn 40, um, at least I'll give myself more time, um. But yeah, you know I want to be a little bit better about celebrating. I know, like you and I have talked about this um with like the big goal of like paying off our homes, and for me it was like oh, we did it. Like okay, now we're saving for a pool, which was great, and you know I loved working on that next goal, um, but I know you like took the time to be like okay, we're going to have a picnic on our lawn and drive and see your old homes. And you know I was like man, that's a good idea.

Camille: 29:07

I definitely um I forgot about that, so I'm like oh yeah, I did do that.

Jennifer: 29:12

That was cool. Yes, I love that so much. So, yeah, I think I think it is important to like um, celebrate wins. I definitely talk about it. Um, I don't I don't know if I do like anything ceremonious. I don't think you have to, but I think that's really awesome If you do. Right now, every time I check something off my list, I'm posting about it and sharing it, and that has been really fun for me because I feel like I'm also like a document you know, it's kind of like a journal entry for me to to go back and look at.

Camille: 29:43

So yeah, well, maybe that should be a goal for both of us is like, when you're making the goal, what is the celebration of the goal going to be, you know, and maybe a share on a story is enough, and that is, that is a celebration, because it's an acknowledgement In fact, I just shared one today that I just hit 600 days of closing my fitness rings. Oh my gosh 600 days. I remember when you hit a year and I was like that's a 100. It was when I hit, oh yeah.

Jennifer: 30:10

I hit a 100.

Camille: 30:11

That was the original. And then I hit a year and now I'm like, oh, I'm at 600. But now I'm like, okay, when do I hit a thousand? So immediately I was like, okay, september 2026, I will hit a thousand days. And I need to figure out how I'm celebrating that one.

Jennifer: 30:29

You really should. I don't even know. I'm like does it have to be fitness related or can it be completely like?

Camille: 30:35

no, it's a vacation to Disney.

Jennifer: 30:38

Get in some more steps. Close your rings at Disney. That's a good idea.

Camille: 30:46

Okay, so I would love to hear what your plan is with or I guess not plan, but our kids see a struggle and especially as our kids get older, the problems get bigger and the struggles get harder. And how have you modeled what to do or how you deal with struggle?

Jennifer: 31:09

You know, I think that can be hard for parents to let them kids, let their kids see them struggle. I think that can be really hard to do. You don't want them to like worry about you. You, you know, want to be the strong one and things like that, um. But I think I one thing I I feel like I'm good at you could ask my kids if they agree, but I do try to be honest and communicate. Like communication is like so big for me. So, um, if I'm, you know, having a tough day or if I snap or something like I do try to tell them like hey, I'm sorry, like come back and apologize and tell them like, you know, maybe not like super details like this and this is going on, but you know, like I've been doing this all day and this happened and you know I'm sorry. When you said this, I just snapped. You know, one time I threw a bagel at my youngest and hit her in the head and she was like so shocked.

Camille: 32:20

That's just so. I just imagined the look on her face Like it would be. I wish to be a fly on the wall at that moment.

Jennifer: 32:26

Yes, she was like very upset, shocked. And then she like went to her room. We were both throwing a fit actually, like she was throwing the fit and getting mad, and then I just literally threw a bagel. And then, yeah she, she went to her room and like kind of like we both calmed down for a minute and I apologize she was like why did you throw a bagel at me? Like yeah, I think that'd be something we laugh at later, but um, that's a real moment, yeah.

Camille: 32:51

It was very real, you know.

Jennifer: 32:53

But but I feel like it is important to like be able to talk, to talk about stuff and and to let them know. You know, like they, they probably know that we're not perfect, but, um, to let them know that we're aware that we're not perfect also, I think is important, and that we have hard days too.

Camille: 33:12

Yeah, and that throwing a tantrum or throwing a bagel happens and exactly. But yeah, that's so real and I I think, with all of this and everything that you've shared so far and it's very clear from people that are following you and know you is that you cherish your relationship so much with your children and you see them very much for the individuals that they are, and communication is so important to you. One big piece or takeaway about giving your children the capacity to dream big or to reach those goals, what would you say?

Jennifer: 33:54

I think, um, man, like, okay, one thing I feel like I've read so many different books on um, like mindset and and things like that and you know, with kids and mindset and stuff, and um, I think that is the biggest thing, that that I have learned in parenting is like just letting them know that they have like truly limitless potential, because I think in the world there's like so much that is going to be like closed off to them or so much that is that they are going to hear that makes them think the world is closed off to them. So we have to work to counter those things that they're hearing and learning. And you know, oh, I can't do that and I'm to this or I'm to that or you know. So we have to make sure that from us they're not getting any of that.

Jennifer: 34:56

Like my parents, um, like that's one thing I think that they did. Well, I don't even know if it was intentionally, like they weren't. You know, like you can do whatever you want, like that wasn't something that they said to me. You know a lot or did, but the fact that they never shot down my big dreams, like I am going to be a singer, I am going to be an actress I am going to do. And they never were like, well, you really need to do this, or you know that might be hard because of X, y, z, like. They never put any kind of doubt in my head. So I just always thought, like, okay, like I could do this. And, like you know, I did have other people later in life like say these things, like, oh, you know, well, you might need to do that. Or just, you know, my natural realization of like I'm. I did a play and I realized I am a very bad actress, I'm not, I cannot act at all. So that like taught me, like, okay, this might not be my thing, but that's okay. Um, but, but it never came from them. Like I never felt, like my parents didn't believe in me and that went a long way for me. And, um, I, I think it helped that I had big dreams and ambitions and I was just always a dreamer, so that, you know, helped.

Jennifer: 36:08

And I think it could be harder for kids who maybe aren't as vocal or aren't as ambitious, you know, or don't have those things.

Jennifer: 36:13

So having a little bit of like whatever you want to do and like encouragement, I think is important as well as so this is kind of like two things like that's part one, and then part two is like understanding and knowing that each of our kids are so unique and different and not like extensions of us but their own selves, with their own personalities and gifts and talents that might have nothing to do with us, and I know that.

Jennifer: 36:42

Like we think like, oh, like my kid has to be in this sport and like this and they have to be the best at this age. And like I don't know why there's so much pressure on kids to like, oh, you gotta like make the travel baseball team and, you know, be the best at this. And like we want to like brag and show off our kids and whatnot, but like then you become an adult and it's like, does that really matter? Like you know you got it, like you got to have fun, but you've also got to like like just realize that they can do other things you know and and it might have nothing to do with like a sport or, um, a subject, or you know it could it could be like the most random thing that they are really into and really good at. You know, maybe they're really good at puzzles, or like Rubik's cubes, or, like, you know, botany.

Camille: 37:32

I don't know, like.

Jennifer: 37:33

You know it's just like like, what are they interested in and what can you dive more into and what can you expose them to? And and being open to something, even if you think that it's really odd or strange? Or, you know, um, whatever, or, or seeing their talents, you know, like, like I told you, jada's really like a visual person. That doesn't really exactly translate to like, oh, so she's really good at math, but, um, you know, just finding ways that she can exercise that and have fun with it and and recognizing them for that. You know it. Like it doesn't mean you have to enroll them and like, well, now I'm going to put you in an interior design class. Like, maybe you're just complimenting them and like, hey, where do you think I should put this in my room, you know? So, yeah, I think just being aware of, um, their unique abilities and unique gifts that they've been blessed with, and reminding them that they can do whatever they want, that's awesome.

Camille: 38:28

Well, this has been absolutely amazing, as no surprise to me, and everyone can follow along with you on Instagram. Tell us a little bit more about where they can find you, yeah everywhere.

Jennifer: 38:41

It's just my name, jennifer Bourget. You can find me on Instagram, tiktok, youtube. You know my blog is Cherish365. I haven't updated in a while, but Cherish Every Day. Cherish365, that's there, and our Family Movie Night Journal also is. You can find that. You know anywhere you can find me but familymovienightjournalcom.

Camille: 39:03

Amazing amazing, amazing. Thank you so much and everyone, make sure that you attend our closing ceremony. It's not a ceremony, it's just a closing online live ceremony closing ceremony. Make sure that you're there because we're giving away some items and Jennifer is going to be a part of that with her movie night items. So thank you, jennifer, you're amazing, and thank you for sharing and just being so beautiful. You're such an amazing human and I'm grateful to be your friend. I'm grateful to be your friend.

Jennifer: 39:34

Thank you.

Camille: 39:35

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