285: When Your Body Speaks: How to Hear What It Really Needs with Dr. Brook Sheehan

Brook: 0:00

The Talk to Me Body card deck really is is grounded in this understanding that your body is doing so many incredible, beautiful things for you every single day.

Camille: 0:20

So you want to make an impact. You're thinking about starting a business, sharing your voice. How do women do it that handle motherhood, family, and still chase after those dreams? We'll listen each week as we dive into the stories of women who know. This is Call Me CEO. Welcome back, everyone, to Call Me CEO. This is a follow-up episode, a part two, if you will. And I'm so excited to share this with you because Dr. Brooks Jihan is with us today. And if you missed the first one, we actually talk about how she is a chiropractor, a functional health practitioner, and a creator of Body OS. This is all about developing a relationship with your body and understanding what your body is trying to communicate with you. So in her framework, it helps women move forward with health striving to create a peaceful partnership with the body God designed for you. And what I love about this so much is this approach is about helping you to have clearer understanding of things that your body is telling you. There is a book called The Body Keep Score that I'm a big fan of. And this is kind of taking a practical approach, one body part at a time, how you can do that, the steps involved with that, and how we can do this together. So thank you, Brooke, for being on the show again. I'm so excited to dive into this topic more with you.

Brook: 1:45

Camille, it's so fun. We had such a great time on the last episode. So I'm really excited to be back with you today.

Camille: 1:51

Yeah, this is going to be a lot of fun. So, funny news, we were talking this morning about something that my son experienced last night. He woke up this morning and his lymph nodes were so swollen that he said he was having a hard time breathing, which isn't the best phone call to get on your way to the gym as your son is driving to school. But what is really cool is that Brooke and I were talking this morning about how her deck that she built and talks about every single body part, there is actually a video and a card deck that speaks specifically to your lymph nodes and or in his case, his throat, where, you know, what is going on. So I haven't had this the chance to go through this with my son, but we're going to talk step by step about how this could apply in this situation and all others as well, so that you can understand better. So, Dr. Sheehan, tell us a little bit more about what how this was developed for those maybe who didn't get the chance to listen to episode one, and then also how we can apply this in everyday situations like the one that my son had.

Brook: 3:03

Yeah, great question, Camille. So this was developed actually out of so many years of dealing with patients where I felt like I had to talk them off cliffs, right? We get into these fear cycles, like with your son, the situation with your son and his throat being swollen or not feeling like he can breathe out of his mouth. And then the freakout that happens as a result, not only for you as mama, but for him as well. Like, what's going on? I don't know what's going on. I can't figure this all out. So the Talk to Me Body card deck really is is grounded in this understanding that your body is doing so many incredible, beautiful things for you every single day. And when we get a chance to really learn about these different parts of ourselves, now some of the cards are from your body as a whole, right? We we we need to hear from the body as one whole piece, like, hey, I'm not harming you. I'm actually working to create working to recreate balance. Or when you fear, I fear and we spiral together. So let's work on doing this together, partnering together. Another part of the the deck, so it's kind of broken up, I would say, into three different parts. One part is from your body as a whole, the second part is from individual pieces. Now, when you talk about your son's situation, immediately I told you, hey, there's a card in the deck for the tonsils, there's a card in the deck for the lymphatic system. Activate those points. You can read the read the statement on the card about each of those and understand, wow, like the tonsils are doing like cool things. The lymphatic system is doing amazing things. Reading or doing the QR code, scanning the QR code, and following along with me and doing the activation point can help support both not only the lymphatic system, but also the tonsils for those two specific cards. Each card has a unique QR code video attached to help support that particular area of your body. The third section of the deck is more of our chemical messengers. So we think of our hormones, we think of cortisol. Everybody knows the word cortisol now, thanks to the Instagram gurus who are always talking about cortisol bellies and things like that. But we know our adrenal glands produce a lot of cortisol stress hormone. So we got those chemical messengers like that. Cholesterol. People get horrible cholesterol reports. They've villain, they have vilified cholesterol. But cholesterol is actually something that we need in our body to help brain function and all these aspects. So this deck was really built out of hey, I know you're fearing it. I know you're scared because you don't know what's happening within you, but like if you just have to just grab a random card out of the deck and just see where your body leads you to, do that too. Because I have a lot of people using it in that way. And I have people who are going one by one by one, uh pulling a new one every day and getting anchored into that.

Camille: 6:06

So it's been it's been beautiful. Oh, that's awesome. Now, with this deck of cards, you just told me before we started this conversation, you've been working with some people for years where they've been using the deck or having personal coaching from you. What would you say is the number one, I guess, hiccup or stop point that people put in their way that you have to help them through to have a better understanding of how to understand what the body is saying?

Brook: 6:34

So this question kind of goes beyond the deck, even. And I want to get into a little bit if you don't mind really the body OS, the body as an operating system framework, because this is really the biggest hiccup. It's not necessarily the card deck, because I feel like a lot of people really do. I've had so many amazing uh customer reviews. Oh my gosh, my stomach was hurting, and I pulled the stomach card and my stomach stopped hurting after I did the reflux point. This is amazing. I really needed this. All sorts of across the spread of people about how it's been working for them. But the biggest hiccup, I feel like, is people do not trust themselves and they don't believe in their ability to be able to listen to their body. And I can understand that because I actually, and I'm sorry if this is a repeat for those listening who might have listened to the first episode, because I know I did talk about this when we spoke uh before, is I was so disconnected from my body and so overwhelmed by the idea of actually like being able to hear from it and listen to it. And so people are operating like that day to day, right? We almost have our ear muffle mufflers on, however you say that word, but ear mufflers on, and we're like la la la la la la la, I can't hear you, I can't hear you, I can't hear you. And then we're seeking advice from the external world. Should we buy this red light? Should we do this? Should we eat that food? Should we do uh, you know, and it's it creates this freakout, right? Overwhelm. And so in dealing with my patients who I'm acting in these situations as a guide, helping them work through things, doing things according to what their body is asking for, not what I as a practitioner think, oh, well, this would be a good idea because you have this symptom. It's very unique to each person, but their biggest hang up is that they don't trust themselves. And yes, I have certain medical understanding about the body in a way that an average person wouldn't. However, just because I know some nuances that they may not know does not mean that listening to the body is unique to me. I am not the only one who has the ability to listen to my body. We can all develop this. And it's about building a relationship with ourselves in a way that takes time. It takes practice, it takes diligence, it takes all of these things where Camille, I think I used this um analogy last time, but it's you and I, you know, this is the second time we were talking, and we had a lot of time to talk on the first one before we hit record and getting to know each other a little bit about our kids and our family life and what we're doing. We're building a relationship. I may not know what your favorite movie is or what makes you excited and laugh, but as I get to know you, that gets developed. So it's the same way we do things with our body, but we got to take the time, even if it's 15 seconds a day. And I'm telling you, I'm not asking people to like sit there in some you know, five-hour state of just be quiet and listen to your body. No, I'm saying 15 seconds when you wake up in the morning asking your body, do you want coffee or do you want tea? Do you want to go for a walk or do you want to do weighted workouts? That simple, like really grounding yourself in that question, sitting there for 15 seconds, 15 seconds, that's all you have to do. If you feel super overwhelmed, like you're not feeling anything, you're not feeling your body gravitate towards something, and I'm not talking about physical movement like your body's walking towards the coffee cup or walking towards the teacup, but I'm just like asking you to kind of feel like get a sense when you say the word tea, how does your body respond? If you feel like you're not getting an answer, go to what you normally would do. Go, go to that coffee cup. Maybe the next day, try again, or maybe at lunchtime, try again. You only need to ask very, very simple questions. Do not get nuanced in terms of should I have this, this, this, and this, and this and this and this, right? Multiple different things. You start out small as you build a relationship. No different than when you are learning about a friend or your spouse or whatever. It's all small talk until it starts getting real deep. You don't need to go deep with your body until you get the small talk out of the way.

Camille: 11:07

I like that because it's empowering in the way that building a relationship with your body doesn't have to be overwhelming. Right. And that it's it can start small and then build upon like, oh, yeah, that felt right to me and I did it and I feel like I got out of it what I was hoping to get out of it, right?

Brook: 11:25

Yeah. So beautiful. And and you said that so well. It is about getting from it what you want to get out of it. And so being able to like sit in that and ask those questions. And then if you like I said, if you don't feel like you're getting an answer one day and you just go back to doing your coffee, the next day just switch it up and see really like sense, tune into your body. A lot of times we are so just go, go, go, go, go. We're not even stopping to really ask questions. We're just doing things out of habit. And one of the big concepts I talk about with learning how to really build this relationship with your body is taking that time to pause, taking that time to connect with yourself, taking that time to ask the questions and taking that time to adjust. So those are the four steps in the framework is pause, connect, ask, and adjust. And when you do that, you'll be able to kind of weave through different things and go, oh, my body wants grapes right now. I was gonna grab the blueberries because I always grab the blueberries.

Camille: 12:31

Yeah, I would think a lot of times that we without meaning to can override, especially when it comes to eating. And this is what is so interesting because I did um the GLP one shot for a few months. And one of the most interesting things was the food noise went away. And it I that medication really does affect you psychologically, which is kind of really freaky. But also like, oh, I didn't realize how many of my thoughts were consumed with what am I eating for lunch? What am I full now? I guess I'll keep eating, or oh, I want that sweet thing. But this medication made it so that you had more of a filter of like, oh, but I'm not hungry. Oh, oh, but I had a bite that was satisfying enough, I'll leave it there. And I think that was the most interesting thing about having that medication was that psychological pause. Where now that I'm not on it anymore, I stop and think more. And sometimes it is still, oh, well, I want that treat still. And I and it's harder to say no. But it's interesting because that psychological pause does take training. And it's I've never seen it so profoundly or been so profoundly aware of that without having been on and then off that medication. Because I think that's what actually gives people the freedom to shed the weight, is that food noise goes away, which is really nice, actually. So I think I'm curious to see if or understand if you've ever worked with people in terms of like food addictions or um overeating or understanding your body in terms of obviously we go through illness and and things like that, but have you helped people in terms of like food and awareness of like, oh, I'm full or I'm satisfied or that sort of thing?

Brook: 14:33

Yeah, great question. I actually, and I'm gonna be super raw and vulnerable here. I never really struggled with food addictions myself in terms of well, that's not true because I feel like at times I could have sugar addictions, and sugar kind of just gets minimized. You know, you think about drugs and alcohol as true addictions, but really, like you were mentioning, food can be an addiction. People can binge.

Camille: 15:00

Oh, sugar is designed to addict you. There's no shame in that, like it's literally manufactured to addict you, like it just is. Yeah.

Brook: 15:08

Yes, absolutely. And so, and there's times like when I'm I'm very aw, like I'm very aware I have this deep relationship with my body, but there's times when my quote unquote flesh is like, go get that bag of Skittles right now because you are in week four of your cycle and it's okay, like you know, justifying everything, like just falling uh flat on my face on that. And sometimes I heed to that, I'm like, okay, like go off the deep end, so to speak. But then I recognize, like, wow, I feel like crap. Like I'm having bowel movements, they're moving, but I just feel like there's something stuck in my tummy, right? And I'm and I'm obviously talking about like very specific, like Skittles getting, you know, all the icky, like it's just processed food. It's not I love Skittles.

Camille: 16:00

But no, I know what you mean. And what's interesting, not to not to interrupt you, but I have worked with um a woman who helped me with a liver cleanse once. It was amazing. And she specifically said there are times of the month that you're craving sugar because your body is needing these other nutrients, but you will translate it as grab the Snickers or grab the Skittles. It doesn't make you a bad person. Okay. Like that's okay to have those things, but yeah, continue because it doesn't make you like your body gives you signals that we're trying to understand. And sometimes Skittles is a lot easier than a sweet potato chili bar or whatever, you know, would be better.

Brook: 16:43

I love sweet potato chili. But yes, you're so right. Like it's not about shaming yourself if you do go off the deep end and have the Skittles. The problem with me, though, in those situations is I overdo it. So I grew up in a family where we finished our plate, no matter what was on it, because there was somebody in a third world country that was going to be impacted, quote unquote, for those of you who can't see me, impacted by me not finishing my plate, right? Yep. And I yeah, I know a lot of people who grew up like that. And then then further on into my teenage years, we because we grew up in in a poor middle class family. My mom was on welfare, and so there wasn't a whole lot, and we were picking up food from like community banks and things like that. Then my mom got remarried to a man who got out of the military and we moved um to Northern California and we got to go to Costco. Like that was like the big thing. Like we didn't get to go to Costco, like when we were younger. And then we would get all these foods that we loved at Costco. Well, I'm the oldest of five, so I had all these siblings to try to like vie for who's getting what, right? So we would hide things in different boxes in different places in the fridge because we were gonna run home from school and we were gonna get that taquito or we were gonna get whatever. And what that created in me was this feeling like, if I don't eat it all right now, even though my stomach is literally bulging, I can't breathe because the diaphragm and the stomach are so closely related. I'm like, I'm gonna eat every last taquito because God forbid my brother or my sister get it, right? And so it created these like feeling feelings in my body, in my mindset, where I'm like, I have this really or used to have this really bad relationship with food. And I'm still working through this. I definitely don't want to give any illusions like, hey, I'm all better and da-da-da. But it's now having the awareness of really actively chewing my bites and knowing what's coming in, right? So I have worked with and I still am working with patients who are working through these food issues. I will call them addictions, I will call them eating disorders, they're still working through these and it's about really slowing it down. Like, don't take your phone to dinner with you, don't take your phone to your lunch break at work, just sit in the peace and quiet of that and take bites of your sandwich, take bites of your pasta or your soup or whatever you're eating and really give it a couple extra chews. Like being intentional about how you're doing it and connecting, right? So back to the pause, connecting, ask and adjust framework. It's really being able to kind of sit with that for a moment. And like what you were talking about with the GLP one, quieting that food noise, because it's it's it's not causing you to like shove a bunch of stuff in your mouth all at once, or like really thinking about do I actually need to be eating that snicker bar, or do I actually, you know, it it's it's causing you to think a lot more and being more intentional. And so that is what learning to listen to your body actually looks like as well is learning to be intentional with how you do everything, not just with eating, but like how you take care of your body. I I know I'm on a tangent here, but I want to say this because I have so many patients as well who are like the gym rats and they're in there day in and day out and doing all this stuff and uh and then they're like muscles are so sore, they're they're walking with knee pain now, you know, because they really they tried this new Pilates thing. All of this is great. I am not saying any of this is bad. It's actually really good to move your body and to work out and to do these things. But the problem is, is we do things based on what other people say to do versus what our body is actually asking for. So we say, in order to do X, Y, and Z or to lose this kind of weight, we have to do this many workouts, we have to do it for this many minutes, we have to do this many reps. And our body meanwhile is like screaming at us, going, WTF, what are you doing to me? And and then we're like, well, I don't know what's wrong. I don't know, you know, and and then we're trying the next thing and the next thing and the next thing. What I'm calling people back to doing is building that relationship with their body in a way that they can actually take all that external noise, all this, all these supplements that are being, you know, thrown at them about all the benefits and things, and go, is this right for me? And asking, you know. So I'm obviously it takes some time, but it's something people can develop.

Camille: 21:24

Yeah, that's so interesting. And I it's so interesting to hear you share that story of the siblings and fighting for the food. My husband is the second oldest of seven children, five of them being boys. And he, it was always this fight to the finish. You gotta eat the first place or the first plate, the quickest, so you can get more. Yeah, there's always the sense of urgency, food is running out, and a sense of loss, you know? And so when we first got married, I remember sitting down with him and he would eat so. So fast that I would try to match his speed. Listen, I gained 15 pounds so quick. I'm like, why are what are is there a flood, a fire? Like, what is happening? And it took me a while to step take a step back and be like, oh, what, like, what's happening here? And kind of challenging him. And then him finally getting to the bottom of it himself and saying, oh, well, if I don't eat quicker, that means I don't get to get a second helping. And even now, even now, these men are in their late 30s, 40s, and they're first to the table. They're like shouldering each other for the food, that best cut of meat. And I'm like, listen, like, it's okay. There's enough to go around. And so it's interesting how those ideas that we have as a child develop into the relationship we have as we get older. And it's really take it takes that effort to think about it and say, okay, I am not, everything's fine. Like I need I can enjoy this and really think about the food. But it is interesting because I think before having taken that medication, just like you, I would eat the whole plate, even if I was full. And that was the first time that I'm like, no, I'm satisfied, and half of the food was left on my plate. That was interesting. That was really interesting to see it and know that that medication like really does change your brain and make you feel fuller, but also the psychological part too. So let's take a step back into the how of this. So we know that there are dysfunction that we can have. We know that there's whether it's, you know, taking that new supplement or trying to eat a certain way or work out a certain way or get the rest that we need. What are some baby steps that we can take beyond the tea or the coffee? And is it this or is it that? Can you do you have a story or an example of something you could share that someone was able to build that awareness that um illustrates the kind of that growth of what that can look like? Are you ready to reclaim your time and finally focus on the tasks that actually grow your business? Whether you're looking to hire a VA or thinking about becoming one, I've got the perfect solution for you. If you're overwhelmed with your business, I personally connect entrepreneurs with highly trained virtual assistants, graduates of my 60 Days to VA program, so you can confidently outsource and scale. Or if you're looking for a flexible, profitable business from home, my 60 Days to VA course gives you everything you need to have to become a successful assistant without the trial and error. Head to CamilleWalker.co to get started today, whether you're hiring or launching your own business, I'm here to help you make it happen. You can also grab this link below and schedule a free discovery call with me to see if it's the right fit for you.

Brook: 25:05

Well, the baby step, yes, I can I can provide some stuff for you on that. Um, the baby steps, first and foremost, is recognizing that your body does speak. So really coming back to ground zero. Does my body have the wisdom to tell me or talk to me and share with me what it needs? Yes, hands down. That is that is the truth. In terms of building upon that foundation or that understanding that you can get answers from your body about different things going on, really being able to deduce it down so you're not feeling so overwhelmed by all of the different, well, you know, running it through. This is where I really talk about. So I talk about a lot the four pillars of health, which are physical, spiritual, emotional, mental. Now, those four pillars, just because you are absent of physical symptoms doesn't mean you haven't had emotional trauma or mental dysregulation or some spiritual issue, right? You talked about the body keep score, and it talks that book talks a lot about the emotional imprints that get left in our body as a result of childhood or things that have happened to us growing up, right? So physical, spiritual, emotional, mental, the four pillars. And then with those four pillars, what you're gonna do, and if you don't mind, I'd love to provide an example in terms of we talked a lot about the eating and the gut, things like that. So I'm gonna I wanna use the gut as uh our example today. So we just had lunch, we're feeling extremely bloated, and now we have like no energy. We're just like having that afternoon crash, like, whoa, it's 2 p.m. Like, should I drink another cup of coffee? If I do, then I might be up all night, but I don't know how I'm gonna make it through the rest of my workday. And now I just feel like I have this like rock in my stomach and nothing's moving, and I'm supposed to sit here for, you know, or work. Like I know a lot of your listeners are CEOs, like work on the business, and you're over here just like wanting to just take a nap, right? So with that, with that signal, let's just say the bloat in the afternoon crash, you're gonna going to basically ask your body, nuance, but not nuance, because you can start to within the framework go, okay, is it in the physical pillar? Okay, wait 10 seconds. Is it in the spiritual pillar? Is it in the emotional? Is it in the mental and so forth? Now, a lot of stomach stuff, people don't realize that there's an emotional tie to that. You could be going to lunch with a prospective client or like a big business deal that you're about to do or get involved with, and you're going to lunch and you're sitting there across the table from that person that you're supposed to be meeting, and you just feel sick to your stomach, you're barely eating your food. There's a lot of emotional component to gut issues that may not just be physical. Sometimes it can be multiple pillars at one time that are all screaming for attention. Other times it could be just one. In the very beginning, I would say just isolate one. And then once you isolate one pillar, like you take it through the rest of the framework. So the pause, ask, or sorry, pause, connect, ask, and adjust. I know I'm talking about this a lot. I do have a free worksheet, like where you can actually work through and deduce the in into like a funnel, so to speak, the questions to be able to get to the root of whatever might be going on. And it's a body signal decoder. It's how you decode these certain body signals to be able to get in there and go, okay, like simplest thing. All right, I'm having this bloat and I am needing to do X, Y, and Z. Okay, that is physical. I'm just gonna say for the example, it's physical in nature. Now there are certain reflex points, and we talked about reflex points on the Talk to Me Body card deck. Each of the cards has a reflex point, but there is an entire library put together where, hey, you're having gastrointestinal distress, get into that library, find the video, like find what video, you know, under there that you might be supportive or helpful, and activate that reflex point. These reflex points are so powerful to help support the body. And I don't mean to be so out there in terms of what I'm saying. I I do want to kind of bring it back to what you were saying is there's tools and there's simplicity of doing this. And um, this is stuff I offer for free. So people can get this, you know, the signal decoder on my Instagram page. It's in there in my link in the bio. So um, yeah, I mean, that just kind of helps break it down for people in a way of which pillars being impacted and then which questions to ask of your body once you determine and then how to support it in that situation. So the biggest thing is I feel like a lot of people are told, like, this is what you need to do, but they're not told how to do it. So it's like, oh, well, you have so much cortisol in your in your body, and now you have cortisol belly, and that's why you're overweight. Okay, well, what do I need to do to help bring that cortisol down? Sure, we have hear about nervous system regulation and things like that, but it's just like people give a just a little bit of information to like get you to do, you know, buy my$10,000 program. There's so many simple tools that you guys can utilize that I offer that will be so helpful to uh getting you the answers that you're looking for.

Camille: 30:45

Yeah, that's awesome. So when as you're going through those four pillars of spiritual, physical, emotional, mental, mental, yeah, what would you say is the body's way of saying yes or no as you're asking those questions?

Brook: 31:01

Yes. So good. So I now some people, if they've ever had like or heard of any kind of muscle testing, I've heard people say, you know, grab a supplement or grab something and put it to your chest and hold on to it. And if your body leans backwards, that's a no. If it leans forward, that's a yes. There's other ways that people have talked about this. What I tell people all the time, because I don't want people to get um, I don't want people to, it's gonna be easy. Let me just say that. It's gonna be easy to try to get answers from your body if you put it to your chest and lean backwards or lean forward based on on that. However, it's going to be an a hindrance later on as you develop these skills, because if you have a bunch of groceries in your hand or you have your baby on your hip and you're throwing stuff into a cart or something, you don't have your hands available to be do am I leaning forward? Am I leaning back? What's going on? So I really teach people, and again, it takes a little bit longer to learn, but it's doable if you actually put in the time. And like I said, it could take you 15 seconds a day of just being consistent with asking these questions. But my thing is our mind, our brain wants to tell us all kinds of things, right? We think we're we're using so much of our head space, we don't use a lot of our heart space. And so what I ask people to do is just drop out of your head, like drop out, come out of your head and come into your heart space. And so when you're asking the question in terms of coffee or tea or what this workout or that workout or whatever, whatever the question is, come into that chest space and feel like the any sort of sensation or movement here. Again, if you don't feel anything, don't beat yourself up, but keep coming back to it because your body has been shut off so many times, it's just been muzzled, muzzled, muzzled, muzzled, muzzled. It's also got to build trust back into you listening to it, right? So a lot of times the body has to trust that we're willing to listen to it. So it may take a little bit of time for that stillness to come through where we actually go, oh my gosh. And I'm telling you, once you start to feel that, you are going to feel like you have a superpower and you're gonna be like walking around the grocery store and go, nope, I don't, my body's saying no to that, saying yes to this, saying like all the things. It's so amazing. But getting out of your head when you're doing that 15 second uh morning or afternoon question and coming back into your heart space and feeling into that. Now we feel our chest a lot when there's anxiety, when there's overwhelm, we feel like we're taking short, short breaths, doing all that kind of stuff. But we just have to come back and just rest in the heart center.

Camille: 33:51

I like that. I had an experience with my daughter over the weekend where she made a big decision. And for the first time, we talked, we talked a lot about the body, but the question that she had, she said she had like a heaviness in her stomach and had been for weeks. And she said, I really think I should do this thing, but I feel bad about it. But in my body, I just my stomach doesn't feel right. And I said, Our emotions are stored in our stomach. That's good that you're feeling that. That's a really good thing. And after she did the thing that she was planning to do and that she did it, she said that pain immediately went away. And she said, My heart feels lighter, but my throat kind of hurts. And I said, That's that makes a lot of sense to me. Like you listen to your stomach, that anxiety went away. Your heart feels lighter because you were listening to what your heart needed, and your throat hurts because you feel bad that you said things that hurt someone else's feelings, but it was the right thing to do. And that's a superpower. And I'm just trying, I mean, she's almost 15. And I hope that she can continue that sensitivity because that really is something that I think we innately are born with, but we do shut it down. So it's just really cool to think about opening that language of being aware and giving precedence or awareness to what our body really, I feel like it's a communication of what our soul is telling us through our body, right?

Brook: 35:23

Yes. Neil, can I say something to that? What you just shared? You know, so many like what you were mentioning with your daughter and her feelings and how her stomach hurt and all these kind of things. And a lot of time what we do as humans, we don't want to hurt someone else's feelings. We don't want to say things. So we'll allow our throat to be calm while everything else is a muck, right? Everything else feels icky, but at least we're just, you know, Sally's our best friend. We can't say anything to her. So at least our throat feels smooth and everything feels okay. However, in that situation, when she did what she had to do, even though she knew it was like painful, and obviously it doesn't surprise me that her throat started hurting, like you were saying, she's speaking a truth. And while it may be painful, but a lot of us run from situations like that. We don't want to feel those situations, we just want to like ducktail and go the other direction. And it's I I want to share just to encourage you all to really walk all of that out. Like when you feel, because that was causing her a lot of emotional strain. It was also causing her mental strain because it's just this loop, ongoing loop where her brain just like, I have to have this conversation, I have to do this, whatever. Then it starts causing physical issues, like actual physical stomach ache. Her stomach probably didn't like immediately start hurting the moment this started coming up. But then as it progressed of like not taking care of it, then the stomach started hurting, right? And I mentioned that earlier about how a lot of times stomach issues can be really driven by that emotional mental pillar, not even just physical. Sometimes, yes, physical. We ate a food that our body didn't like, and now it's like I'm angry and I'm mad at you, but emotional and mental aspects to that. And so it's just one of those things, and I shared with uh Camille right before we hit record on this that I had to have a difficult conversation with a patient this morning about something. And honestly, my voice was cracking and I was feeling a little shaky in my skin, but I knew I had to do it. I could no longer like just sit with it and just pretend everything is okay and okay, yes, help, you know, all the things. It's like I had to move through that. And while it doesn't feel comfortable, the more that you speak your truth, the more that you stand in that groundedness of what your body is saying, the more those kind of things, like the next time your daughter has to do that, it's gonna be less throat pain. And the next time she does it, it's gonna be less throat pain, you know, to where I'm not saying she's gonna just feel good about having hard conversations, but it's gonna get easier and easier and easier.

Camille: 38:09

Yeah. Well, this has been amazing. I love where our conversation went again. Thank you so much for coming on to the show. And please let our audience know where they can find the free resources, your card deck, and also how to set up appointments with you.

Brook: 38:26

So everything is on in my Instagram bio, in the link in my Instagram bio. Um, and my Instagram account is Dr. Brooke Sheehan. There's no E at the end of my name. So D-R-B-R-O-O-K-S-H-E-E-H-A-N. Everything is there. The body uh signal decoder working through certain symptoms. I have eight major signals on there where people can select which is their main one, chronic migraines or difficulty falling asleep or stomach pain, hormonal chaos, right? Those kind of things, stress signals are all on there and it helps you break down basically what I was talking about, deducing down which pillars being impacted, which uh, you know, the pause, connect, ask, and adjust those questions to ask, how to how to work through that. And the card deck is in that link as well. And um, booking appointments or booking a consultation call. I always want people to book a consultation call first, just because I can talk to the body and dialogue with the body and figure out what's going on with it doesn't mean I do it just willy-nilly and walking around the Starbucks or the coffee shops or whatever. Oh, that person's got this going on and their body's saying this. I want to get permission and that consultation calls allow me to get permission from the person I'm speaking to about their condition to figure out like what is it gonna take? Is the body asking for eight sessions, six sessions? It's always trying to basically get it done as quickly as possible and not keep people under care for a long time.

Camille: 40:01

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